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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2015.02.16 14:49:54 -
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SnowFlower Crendraven wrote:so i was ganked in hi sec yesterday by 3 destroyers...even with all my drones trained to l5 and a fleet t2 shield harmony boost plus all the fleets drones set to guard my ship...i lost the attack. My fleet boosters drones did'nt even respond to there attack but just before that they responded to some rats that came in. After i lost my ship i docked at the station and thats where the gankers went also, they sure enjoyed making fun in local so i set it up so anyone i my corp could kill them. Well that did'nt work either, as soon as my corp member undocked and seen them he locked on and fired but was destroyed by concord. He tried to dock when they started shooting but got the message ( docking not allowed because he agressed another pilot or something) i guess this game is set up to make no sense to me at all. i checked under my killrights and it was set so anyone in my corp could kill but it did'nt work and so another ship was lost. All i wanted to do was mine alittle in hisec but might be better off in lowsec for all the good it did me. anyone else feeling cheated lately ? Wish i could just once feel like my time and training was worth all the years invested in this game . FEELING RIPPED OFF...Cheers
You've been playing a game for years and don't know how it works?
That's pretty much the definition of High Sec. Players in low, null and wormhole space are FORCED to learn the game mechanics because not learning them results in frequent losses. But a player can go years in high sec without having anything bad happen (I know, 8 years of high sec with only two attempted ganks, none successful).
You are feel 'cheated' when you should be feeling a sense of "I need to get better at this game'.
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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2015.02.16 15:20:53 -
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SnowFlower Crendraven wrote:thanks for all the responses, I like to here from other players on this. I really don't know all the game mechanic's and now that i see its rigged to pamper the players that can't seem to find others to fight fair I've decided to quit mining . CHEERS
Cheers to you mate. If someone can chase you out of a video game activity , you probably shouldn't have been doing that activity (or playing that game...or using the internet) in the 1st place.
The game isn't rigged to cater to anyone...except smart people over...less smart people. Your options are quit or be less 'less mart' lol.
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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:06:45 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:*dodges onslaught of "EVE ain't safe nowheres*
You were just a victim of "content creation". You weren't creating content by playing. Nooooo. THEY were creating content by ganking you. It's how CCP welcomed the WoW refugees. CCP is the only one that did. All other games in the world just told them to learn this isn't WoW. But, ganking in the minds of CCP is some sort of genius on the fly.
One has to wonder. Not about gankers. We all know what they are, but CCP....then, I digress.
Sorry for your loss. You'll know better now. To all others. Don't come in here and speak about it! Free speech here means, any criticism of this infantile idiocy means you'll be accused of being a VICTIM! YES! It's true! In fact,
consider GD the grease trap of the internet....that little crook in your sink drain..
I've met crime victims that weren't as angry as this guy is about a video game.
If you don't like EVE, it's community or CCP, what does that make you for paying for it (as you obviously are seeing as how you can post here)?
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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:57:29 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:SnowFlower Crendraven wrote:thanks for all the responses, I like to here from other players on this. I really don't know all the game mechanic's and now that i see its rigged to pamper the players that can't seem to find others to fight fair I've decided to quit mining . CHEERS That right there might be the wrong attitude. People like me home in on these kind of ******** responses.
It ain't just you. I have yet to meet a 'carebear' (whether they pve or pvp) who understands that their behavior is what draws gankers (and scammers and afk cloakers and awoxxers) to therm like flies.
I PVE at will across New Eden and don't get F'd with, then I come to these forums and watch people cry about getting F'd with when they made themselves targets.
It's annoying as hell, I'm not working magic when i keep myself safe from 'bad guys' in EVE, i simply learned the game's mechanics (and observed the behaviors of people who would try to kill me) and keep from being a victim. If doing that is hard in a video game, how do these people survive in the real world at all?
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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2015.02.16 19:10:17 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:SnowFlower Crendraven wrote:thanks for all the responses, I like to here from other players on this. I really don't know all the game mechanic's and now that i see its rigged to pamper the players that can't seem to find others to fight fair I've decided to quit mining . CHEERS That right there might be the wrong attitude. People like me home in on these kind of ******** responses. It ain't just you. I have yet to meet a 'carebear' (whether they pve or pvp) who understands that their behavior is what draws gankers (and scammers and afk cloakers and awoxxers) to therm like flies. I PVE at will across New Eden and don't get F'd with, then I come to these forums and watch people cry about getting F'd with when they made themselves targets. It's annoying as hell, I'm not working magic when i keep myself safe from 'bad guys' in EVE, i simply learned the game's mechanics (and observed the behaviors of people who would try to kill me) and keep from being a victim. If doing that is hard in a video game, how do these people survive in the real world at all? It was said EVE MMO players are considered more intelligent then the rest. Well... I honestly believe 98% of EVE is no more than two steps away from 'You aint got no legs Lt Dan."
You damn near made me fall out of my chair laughing and I (or rather my ass) NEED(s)s that chair 
But i agree it does feel that way sometimes. I remind myself often that the complainers (like the 'bad guys they complain about) are a tiny minority of the game, most players are good-ish players and take care of themselves well.
Still, That loud minority of "wahhh I'm a victim in a video game, CCP fix it for me" is F%^!@#$ annoying.
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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2015.02.16 19:15:01 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:
It was said by the game community who is biased toward itself. Every single MMO I played have it's playerbase bitching how other game's playerbase is **** and how the one they play is so much better because :reasons:.
It works in reverse too, some people think the EVE community and forums are 'horrible', but those people have probably never played a Call of Duty pick up session on XBox live with 12 year old misogynistic racists.
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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2015.02.17 23:43:48 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Pok Nibin wrote:*dodges onslaught of "EVE ain't safe nowheres*
You were just a victim of "content creation". You weren't creating content by playing. Nooooo. THEY were creating content by ganking you. It's how CCP welcomed the WoW refugees. CCP is the only one that did. All other games in the world just told them to learn this isn't WoW. But, ganking in the minds of CCP is some sort of genius on the fly.
One has to wonder. Not about gankers. We all know what they are, but CCP....then, I digress.
Sorry for your loss. You'll know better now. To all others. Don't come in here and speak about it! Free speech here means, any criticism of this infantile idiocy means you'll be accused of being a VICTIM! YES! It's true! In fact,
consider GD the grease trap of the internet....that little crook in your sink drain.. I've met crime victims that weren't as angry as this guy is about a video game. If you don't like EVE, it's community or CCP, what does that make you for paying for it (as you obviously are seeing as how you can post here)? You a bit delusional maybe? Or, do you just make things up as you go along?
Your dislike of CCP is so obvious, your post is like a person being both a militant vegan and a member of PETA while every night going to a STEAK HOUSE complaining to people eating Steak that meat is murder....all the while ordering and paying for drinks and salads from the STEAK HOUSE thus helping this place (that you can't stand) stay in business.
You're paying a game company you hate to make a game with a community you can't stand and somehow I'm the delusional one. Brilliant. |
Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2015.02.17 23:47:26 -
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Lefty Lulu wrote:Through all the pumping out of chests and tiresome smack talk, it all boils down to this. It's about cowards getting cheap kills the only way cowards know, by seeking out the peaceful.
Eve is approaching anarchy. Good luck with that.
EVE IS anarchy.
The point that's hard for many of us to understand is that if you want 'peaceful', why in the seven hells would you pick a game that has universal non-consensual pvp (non-consensual sandbox pvp games always attract people other games would call 'griefers') and has been advertised as a hive of villainy since at least 2003?
It's like someone going to a Hoe house and being shock (SHOCKED I tell you) at all the Hoeing goin down. WTF do you expect?
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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2015.02.18 00:01:05 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Lefty Lulu wrote:Through all the pumping out of chests and tiresome smack talk, it all boils down to this. It's about cowards getting cheap kills the only way cowards know, by seeking out the peaceful.
Eve is approaching anarchy. Good luck with that. EVE IS anarchy. The point that's hard for many of us to understand is that if you want 'peaceful', why in the seven hells would you pick a game that has universal non-consensual pvp (non-consensual sandbox pvp games always attract people other games would call 'griefers') and has been advertised as a hive of villainy since at least 2003? It's like someone going to a Hoe house and being shock (SHOCKED I tell you) at all the Hoeing goin down. WTF do you expect? No one is taking away your precious non-consensual pvp. We are asking that Criminals be treated as such. Your example of the hoe house is spot on, no one should be shocked there is hoeing going down, but neither should the man getting the hoe be shocked at his doctor bill for medical treatment afterwards. We are asking that if you insist on screwing everything that moves in high-sec, that you have to take some penicillin when you are done.
And they do. The things gankers (and all other 'bad guys) have to do to keep going far exceeds the amount of effort it takes me to dock, turn in my mission, get another and undock (all the effort in PVE is in the front end, getting standings or learning skills or making the isk for that mining ship or incursion boat). As a PVE player, I can acknowledge this and thus have no desire to 'meta game' nerfs against them. The game gives me all the tools I need to defeat 'bad guys' in EVE and I've done so for 8 years.
After those 8 years my 'loses' to the bad guys are:
-Bought a 100 mil t1 hauler in Rens because I was stupid and in a hurry.
-A few Proators to low sec gate camping pirates
-1 Ratting Vindicator to an Awoxxer in Fountain
And that's it , despite the fact that I've played most days for the last 2,920 days. Meanwhile, overtly jealous, lazy and uncreative types are losing to the 'bad guys' all day every day, and instead of engaging brain to find individual solutions, they run to the forums and couch their unreasonable metagame lobby attempts as 'fairness' and 'balance'.
It's really just weakness. You should stop pretending otherwise. Evading and otherwise embarrassing the 'Bad Guys' is content for real EVe non-PVP players, when you try to nerf them for your own comfort, you are nerfing ALL of us who don't want or need such help from CCP.
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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2015.02.18 07:37:14 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:
The only victims are the victims of their own poor judgement, lack of teamwork, failure to maintain situational awareness, and of course, laziness. *shrug*
Well said.
When you boil it all down, it comes down to one thing. The mindset called 'Victimhood' (and a person doesn't have to be the atual 'victim' of anything to have this mindset).
If playing MMOs has taught me anything, it's that a certain segment of humanity will FIND a way to be a victim, no matter what the endeavor (even one as inconsequential as a video game). It's crazy (and I mean totally insane) to me that someone could be a victim in an internet spaceship game that has tools and tactics and other people in it (that I use constantly) to make the bad stuff not happen.
....It's almost as if they explose themselves to 'victimhood' situations (rather than do very simple things to defend themselves) because they LIKE being victims. Well, some people are strange, some people pay leather clad women to spank their naughty asses so why not have "intentional victims" in a video game?
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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2015.02.18 12:45:00 -
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Lan Wang wrote:baltec1 wrote:Lefty Lulu wrote:I really don't know why CCP are messing about at. They should just get on with it and sack Concord and turn the game into one glorious free-for-all gank fest, after all, this is what CCP and the majority of the players want anyway. Its not what we want. All we want is for the nerfs to stop. would you prefer for the nerfs to stop and more people stop playing the game and eventually we have no game?
Please demonstrate where any 'nerfs' have coincided with population growth (or even just stopping player decline).
In the decade where EVe was much harsher (before all these safety pop up and safeties and improved Concord) CCP couldn't help but tell people about how much it was growing. Now? not at all.
Basically, CCP may have made the Wal-Mart Mistake in good faith. They've made for an easier to understand "easy to play/hard to master" game when it was the CHAOS and DANGER of the game that kept it growing all those years.
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tell me the risks you have from suiciding 30 catalysts to kill 7-8bil worth of freighter? doesnt matter how well you tank anything if you want it dead then its dead.
As it should be. A game where a person can make themselves 100% safe wouldn't be EVE anymore. CCP has made the game 'safer' based on the false idea that more carebears will stay. They don't, meanwhile they make it less attractive for the actual types of people (pve and pvp) who do play.
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